Subject	Seb >
Posted by	ztunerz on November 19, 2008 at 1:52 PM
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In Reply To	The main thing is I don't see other companies posted by Seb (specialty-Z) on November 18, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Message	There is copying going on - i need to get you on NABR so you can get to talk to the DSM / EVO heavyweights and see whats really going on. There is some serious shit being developed for these cars.Can you say upgraded SST :) I am very close to jumping ship. I am disapointed with the 370Z, i was hoping it would be forced induction. I guess its time to finish building my white Z and move on to EVO X's. Harry Formerly yellowzxtt " If it doesn't make it faster, i don't care " Please visit www.ztuner.com to GO FASTER
Follow Ups	Problems with AMS? - d_flore 19:19:35 11/18/08 Re: Problems with AMS? - jas0n3485 19:26:00 11/18/08 *Shrug*....there = their and AMS promoter - 600ZXR 19:41:47 11/18/08 Re: *Shrug*....there = their and AMS promoter - jas0n3485 01:31:54 11/19/08 Re: Problems with AMS? - ali300zx 19:27:27 11/18/08 Not 99% at all - pcproa 19:37:00 11/18/08 Markham, ON Canada - Spongerider :) 19:41:37 11/18/08 Never said the core. You were the one - pcproa 19:52:02 11/18/08 Ok, Nacy. - Spongerider :) 20:01:24 11/18/08 H.B., ca USA - Prejudice (n/m) - pcproa 20:24:02 11/18/08 With some logic please explain how you came up - Spongerider :) 01:59:17 11/19/08 Why do you have to get all racial?? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:38:35 11/19/08 Location show where the poster lives. - Spongerider :) 15:04:15 11/19/08 You sir are a racialist! Their beady eyes and floppy heads - BigTDogg (MA) 15:35:55 11/19/08 LoL! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 15:39:51 11/19/08 Nick doesn't HATE Coz, he was just making fun of his shippin - BigTDogg (MA) 19:50:45 11/18/08 nixit is still waiting on his titanium key... (n/m) - dpjax 19:53:12 11/18/08 Naw, he hates me, it's a Titanium Key for crying out loud!!! (n/m) - Coz@CZP 00:25:40 11/19/08 just a made-up figure.. (n/m) - ali300zx 20:03:02 11/18/08 yoyo, wtf? - ni[X]it 20:19:15 11/18/08 OMG, this is about a key? I actually don't even recall >> - Coz@CZP 00:04:57 11/19/08 LOL, served (n/m) - vorpalZ 00:26:40 11/19/08 Nixit = Oprah (n/m) - AZHeat 21:50:51 11/18/08 Thank you Dr. Phil (n/m) - ShakaShaun(Denver) 21:54:23 11/18/08 Oprah's opinion matters to companies if they want - AZHeat 22:29:13 11/18/08 So you watch Oprah? - aliaZ 06:57:51 11/19/08 Oprah is a Billionaire and influential. Don't have - AZHeat 10:31:38 11/19/08 only morons are influenced by the likes of Oprah (n/m) - aliaZ 11:02:03 11/19/08 True, just like the morons on TT.net that listen to - AZHeat 11:07:06 11/19/08 morons are free to listen to whoever they like - aliaZ 11:30:34 11/19/08 It's sad but true. Many people are easily influenced - AZHeat 11:38:11 11/19/08 Yes and this copying undercuts the people who actually do - 240Z FeO2 19:48:02 11/18/08 (Total Hits: 2,979). - Spongerider :) 19:34:43 11/18/08 i saw one of'em at the SEMA convention with some blonde (n/m) - inf 19:40:12 11/18/08 Complete lack of ethics, charecter, and respect for - BigTDogg (MA) 19:43:14 11/18/08 So i guess its ok for powertrix to do it? (n/m) - blacksc 19:50:07 11/18/08 I never said it was. And perhaps they are partially - BigTDogg (MA) 19:54:56 11/18/08 Why don't you put a big NO POWERTRIX sign - pcproa 19:57:07 11/18/08 maybe he doesn't like Canuckians (n/m) - aliaZ 20:04:31 11/18/08 Who does? (n/m) - eriksu9 08:30:21 11/19/08 "I can't say for sure" - BigTDogg (MA) 20:42:00 11/18/08 Hey, I'm not your token Canuck, leave me out of this! ;) (n/m) - ZEngineer 12:12:11 11/19/08 I'll tell you EXACTLY why - SeedyROM 21:22:39 11/18/08 So it is okay to produce a knock-off if it not against - AZHeat 02:32:28 11/19/08 Exactly - pcproa 19:55:17 11/18/08 Carbing strut bars, coil overs, air guides....list goes on - blacksc 20:01:37 11/18/08 Why is it that you ams lovers only show up to defend - Spongerider :) 20:06:32 11/18/08 Please look up my post history in the Tech section - pcproa 20:10:19 11/18/08 Theres nothing sad everyone makes mistakes. - Spongerider :) 21:13:41 11/18/08 Ok first slow down and spell right. Second everyone needs - 5280Z_nightstalker 20:08:42 11/18/08 Good analogy on the job thing. - BigTDogg (MA) 20:52:51 11/18/08 Re: Good analogy on the job thing. - d_flore 21:45:47 11/18/08 Someone will always be able to make a copy cheaper - sfarrah 20:16:30 11/18/08 Yes prices may go down, but also they cause many new - collegeboy 23:12:37 11/18/08 *AMS, AMZ is different, IIRC (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:19:32 11/19/08 Langley, BC Canada (n/m) - Spongerider :) 20:02:26 11/18/08 big deal? - blacksc 20:04:25 11/18/08 Wear some glasses. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 20:07:13 11/18/08 I don't know how to respond to this, other than - pcproa 20:22:57 11/18/08 Chuckle, it's ok - vorpalZ 20:36:04 11/18/08 I've got cheap gas and matches .79 here (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 21:05:52 11/18/08 bastage, .84 here, and we produce the stuff (n/m) - vorpalZ 21:41:31 11/18/08 filled up for .79 yesterday. Get an Esso Speedpass. 5 cents - MixManMash 08:29:59 11/19/08 .79... Where? - pcproa 23:12:10 11/18/08 Ok, so.. 1 liter = 0.264 gallon, $1 CAD = $0.798 USD - BigTDogg (MA) 16:29:30 11/19/08 It must be the snow up there but where did I say - Spongerider :) 22:02:29 11/18/08 Snow.....???? Ignorance at it's best. You're really - pcproa 23:10:13 11/18/08 Did you forget your medication? - Spongerider :) 00:53:46 11/19/08 FWIW you don't see me pimping their products either - SeedyROM 21:03:08 11/18/08 Going to Fontana this weekend? (n/m) - Piranha(AZ) 22:16:33 11/18/08 Not sure which day yet but it's on my to do list (n/m) - SeedyROM 02:22:55 11/19/08 maybe, but I have bought a bunch of stuff from him - moxie (SF) 03:22:52 11/19/08 powertrix at least contributes some NEW products. - AntiHero 09:31:28 11/19/08 It's okay to steal as long as you earn the right - AZHeat 11:28:00 11/19/08 Most responses seem to be people trying to go into business - d_flore 20:04:47 11/18/08 it isn't so much about proper knowledge - aliaZ 20:16:06 11/18/08 How come you don't say anything when Stillen's products - AZHeat 10:24:37 11/19/08 what Stillen products are you referring to? (n/m) - aliaZ 10:43:13 11/19/08 Do your research. Suspension products, shifter .. (n/m) - AZHeat 10:52:23 11/19/08 Try to patent something and get back to us on just how use- - Bernie (NoVA) 20:16:16 11/18/08 IF only it were that simple. - SeedyROM 20:54:56 11/18/08 Z parts are expencive enough... - 300znick 21:15:46 11/18/08 you get what you pay for (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 21:21:44 11/18/08 you're the typical AMS customer - aliaZ 21:29:58 11/18/08 Enjoy it while you can - SeedyROM 21:34:03 11/18/08 >>> - ztunerz 21:37:59 11/18/08 The main thing is I don't see other companies - Seb (specialty-Z) 23:52:57 11/18/08 Lower the 3" 4-bolt downpipes price, you've been warned ;) (n/m) - Coz@CZP 00:22:39 11/19/08 oh you don't wanna go there do you? ;) (n/m) - Seb (specialty-Z) 00:31:45 11/19/08 Hey, you already invoiced me, I can say whatever I want :) (n/m) - Coz@CZP 00:32:39 11/19/08 when was the last time you looked at a Jeg's catalog? - AZHeat 02:25:17 11/19/08 I know how it is out there bud, especially since you - Seb (specialty-Z) 21:15:25 11/19/08 Seb > - ztunerz 13:52:16 11/19/08 I don't doubt that's a competitive market one bit (n/m) - SeedyROM 02:20:23 11/19/08 are you saying that SZ has given up on Z's? - 300znick 22:21:52 11/18/08 would you want to spend your time and money - aliaZ 22:38:31 11/18/08 I nominate that word o' the day (n/m) - SeedyROM 00:57:06 11/19/08 2nd, lol (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 08:13:56 11/19/08 better and cheaper ehhh ? sure why not (n/m) - ztunerz 21:35:32 11/18/08 if its better... yeah why the hell not??? (n/m) - 300znick 22:26:29 11/18/08 damn you're dense - aliaZ 22:36:00 11/18/08 I nearly p!ssed my pants at better, BWAHAHAHAHAHAH (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 22:32:17 11/18/08 You are an idiot - na300zx (OH) 09:15:37 11/19/08 false. - Waggz 09:30:21 11/19/08 Who? (n/m) - Piranha(AZ) 20:24:04 11/18/08 Nice;) (n/m) - tdogzjoint 21:20:15 11/18/08 B/c copycats blow....plain 'n' simple (n/m) - The Hawk 21:28:52 11/18/08 Why should we care? Don't we have more important - AZHeat 21:48:28 11/18/08 Re: I think we have bigger fish to fry than "AMS" antagonism - rojoloco (San Diego) 23:27:49 11/18/08 you have friends? (n/m) - aliaZ 06:48:04 11/19/08 It's far from over, but this takes my mind off it. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:24:30 11/19/08 Gee what do you do for fun then? (n/m) - AZHeat 10:29:46 11/19/08 Video games, DJ, TV, and long walks on the beach, you? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:54:47 11/19/08 I make money and spend it on stuff. (n/m) - AZHeat 11:05:08 11/19/08 *and bitch about people bitching on TT.net :-) (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:36:35 11/19/08 Yup ,it's fun poking at the whiners on here :) (n/m) - AZHeat 11:39:29 11/19/08 drama queen (n/m) - aliaZ 22:03:22 11/18/08 <backaw> (n/m) - ZiNnYc 23:29:38 11/18/08 I promised myself I'd never get involved in the "drama" - SirpriZ 23:46:30 11/18/08 Welcome :-) (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 23:59:30 11/18/08 Glad to have ya. (n/m) - Kenny 00:05:18 11/19/08 Quality post! (n/m) - Piranha(AZ) 00:06:24 11/19/08 you are now officially a dramatic TT.netter! (n/m) - Seb (specialty-Z) 00:06:29 11/19/08 (Total Hits: 60,390). (n/m) - Spongerider :) 00:56:45 11/19/08 Amen, now we just need to work on a TTDC badge like - BigTDogg (MA) 10:26:11 11/19/08 I am name brand biased and I buy the American way - AZHeat 11:36:25 11/19/08 So if you value quality and performance, you wouldn't buy - BigTDogg (MA) 13:02:31 11/19/08 I have only purchased from SZ, SGP(Kyle), Stillen - AZHeat 15:17:04 11/19/08 Don't forget Coz... a short trip down the 10. (n/m) - Piranha(AZ) 00:14:37 11/20/08 Just for Giggles, How many of Stillen's R&D products - AZHeat 02:23:09 11/19/08 I dunno. How many? (n/m) - aliaZ 06:55:48 11/19/08 You want to have real discussion or be smart ass? - AZHeat 10:21:08 11/19/08 Stillen buys other products and rebadges them, totally diff. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:26:59 11/19/08 They also have their own R&D orginal products too. - AZHeat 10:28:28 11/19/08 Who has copied a Stillen product? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:52:15 11/19/08 Look on Ebay at Stillen knock offs just to name - AZHeat 10:59:45 11/19/08 You know better than to feed the troll - SeedyROM 12:40:19 11/19/08 I was bored (n/m) - aliaZ 14:31:54 11/19/08 I shot holes in your argument, so you name call me - AZHeat 15:24:31 11/19/08 Seedy & Aliaz = AMS/Z1 Troll. Tag team off each other. (n/m) - AZHeat 15:37:42 11/19/08 I would not consider them trolls. - Spongerider :) 15:49:44 11/19/08 They have a conflict of interest with this argument - AZHeat 15:57:19 11/19/08 And you had a JWT ecu, right? - Spongerider :) 16:39:43 11/19/08 what is the relevence of my JWT ecu? Not following - AZHeat 17:26:37 11/19/08 If you don't get it now then perhaps later.. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 17:40:35 11/19/08 not really - aliaZ 17:34:18 11/19/08 Then you have difference of opinion from Seedy on this (n/m) - AZHeat 18:17:34 11/19/08 Here you go Mike, I'm breaking it down like Legos... - BigTDogg (MA) 17:45:36 11/19/08 Copying is Copying, You can rationlize anything - AZHeat 18:14:39 11/19/08 As would I - aliaZ 18:38:17 11/19/08 HA carbing finish still looks better than powertrix - Dane (Houston) 23:00:38 11/19/08 you're a shortsighted moron (n/m) - aliaZ 23:56:05 11/19/08 "But ulimately it should come down to quality and service." - BigTDogg (MA) 08:56:22 11/20/08 Tdoggy, you shyt thrown monkey, look at my profile. - Dane (Houston) 00:17:34 11/21/08 Dana Dane you double talkin ape... - BigTDogg (MA) 10:34:51 11/21/08 Fee, fi, fo, fum.... - Waggz 11:24:07 11/19/08 fyi, they just released some new items - Ahmed (Chicago) 12:57:39 11/19/08 LOL @ O2 sensors, I'll stick with OEM thanks (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 18:05:18 11/19/08
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